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Go back to basics on burglary to re-connect with public, says HMI

Thewayitwas (30/08/22 @ 12:35)

Every single thing said in this report is absolutely correct and will come as no surprise to a lot of us. No value is given to experienced officers encouraging them to stay or even return. As he infers the current very good officers ( obviously overworked) but need guiding in the right direction, pretty basic really buts it’s missing.

Ian (30/08/22 @ 14:37)

This argument makes perfect sense until one stops to consider what the HMICFRS will be reporting when they inspect every other thematic area of Policing over the next 3-5 years. We cannot prioritise everything and the performance we now see in respect of Burglary reflects the fact that we are too thinly spread across too many competing demands. Some Forces do some things really well, but overall policing is barely keeping its head above water. We might improve, if those being recruited now stay long enough to learn to swim and not just tread water, but otherwise the HMICFRS can probably use the template from this inspection to draft their reports for the foreseeable future. Ensuring, of course, to copy and paste how brilliant Durham are!

Ian (30/08/22 @ 14:44)

This would make perfect sense, if the same sentiment was not likely to be expressed in respect of every other thematic area that the HMICFRS looks at in the coming 3 to 5 years. We are spread too thinly across too many demands and with too little support from other parts of the system. Prioritising Burglary and theft will mean less focus for other areas of crime and we are not collectively excelling at preventing and detecting any of those either. Short of a further radical overhaul of policing, the job of the HMIs will be fairly simple for the foreseeable future ; they can use the template from this inspection and apply it to any other thematic area. Not forgetting of course, to copy and paste the comments about Durham!

M10 (30/08/22 @ 22:21)

Cooke..totally right. Uplift officers learning. How do they do that when it is Muggins teaching Muggins?

Captainover (30/08/22 @ 23:41)

He is absolutely correct. Some of the uplift officers are not interested in crime at all. They want to play at being social workers. They should all be made to walk the beat for periods of time to get to know the community that they serve and gather information. This notion of officers driving around in cars all day sitting on their mobile phones- it is never the wonder crimes aren't being solved.

paul webb (31/08/22 @ 08:52)

Basic policing is not rocket science at the very least it is using common sense. I have reported numerous crimes in houses I manage with a very small suspect list but I know that the thefts etc. will be written off at first look. No police attendance, no one spoken too, no arrests. I know they are busy and I know that arresting someone today is a nightmare. However until someone actually grows a pair and points out to the government that the monsters they created in PACE and Couldn't Prosecute Satan are the biggest obstacle to achieving higher arrest and detection rates then nothing will change.

Peter Shaw (31/08/22 @ 16:09)

The solution is simple. If the Police stop having to plug the MH service holes, they'd actually have time to deal with properly crime. Unfortunately, I can't see that happening anytime soon....

Anon (31/08/22 @ 19:22)

It's almost as if Cooke and Marsh are completely oblivious to the vicious austerity cuts made to policing and the broader CJS since 2010. The heart of policing was torn out and trampled upon. Not only were huge cash and resource cuts implemented with zeal by government, but a culture war was launched against policing which continues to this day. The complicit right wing media has furthered the political narrative that police are corrupt, racist, lazy, inefficient and ineffective. The sum total is a force (service) that is paralysed, lacking strategic and operational leadership and a sense of mission. Experienced officers are retiring of leaving early to get away from the rot that they see every day. Morale is in the gutter and new recruits are leaving in their droves. If Cooke thinks that constant criticism without fundamental change and cultural revolution is going to succeed, then he is very sadly mistaken. I see absolutely nothing changing without Royal Commission and a government totally committed to implementing and fully funding It's long term findings and recommendations.

David Crinnion (01/09/22 @ 15:19)

Back to basics, full stop. Get rid of the virtue signallers masquerading as Police Officers, and start dealing with the problems, policing is not a liberal occupation, 'Law Enforcement' provides a clue.

John.lyness1@btinternet.com (01/09/22 @ 16:17)

The warnings where put out in the mid 1990's obviously no one listened. Get beck to being a police service, Fire brigade put out fires, Prison service look after prisons. Police see that the law is enforced and justice done. the sick are the responsibility of the NHS. Get the politics out of the Police service

Frankie (01/09/22 @ 16:19)

Didnt Tom Windsor support short term contracts for cops. Apparently you didn't need experience or training. How wrong he was...... Home Office pushed recruiting/ promoting 'talent', code for no experience.

Frankie (01/09/22 @ 16:20)

Didnt Tom Windsor support short term contracts for cops. Apparently you didn't need experience or training. How wrong he was...... Home Office pushed recruiting/ promoting 'talent', code for no experience.

CMR (01/09/22 @ 16:28)

Thewayitwas (01/09/22 @ 16:52)

I honestly hate being right like all of us on here it’s quite depressing. We can live in hope that something will change but it will have to be radical but actually quite simple at the same time. I do have time for Andy Marsh he was a good boss and I hope he’s listening.

Fatblurk (01/09/22 @ 17:22)

All of his 'findings' are obvious , however in order to proritise them the police will have to de-prioritise whatever the Home Office decides is today's priority. The maths are very simple, there aren't enough police officers and those that do exist are doing the work of Social Services, mental health et al.

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