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Resignations overtake retirements as biggest reason for leaving the Met

Softly Softly (20/11/23 @ 09:00)

Quote MPS "The most frequent reason for leaving is resignation" Correction MPS resignation is a RESULT NOT A REASON. Amongst the reasons are, poor pay, conditions, poor standards of recruits - bar lowered to meet uplift target and they even failed at that! BUT above all else total crap, out of touch incompetent management!

paul webb (20/11/23 @ 10:09)

It would be interesting to see at what point the officers quit. Is it just after 3 years with degree in hand and away to the safety of a better paid job in civvie street. Because if it is, then it will vindicate my and other old dinosaurs arguments that the degree only scheme was doomed to failure. But as usual we are never listened to. The modernisers just carry on destroying the job on the way to top of the greasy pole.

retired brief (20/11/23 @ 11:38)

Can anyone be even remotely surprised at this, the way the job is being managed and with officers under criticism from every corner as they try to carry out their duties.

Old Skool Kind of Guy (20/11/23 @ 11:51)

less officers are retiring due to the removal of compulsory retirement age/job market - NONSENSE!! smoke and mirrors...and the Met has a CC now?

Squadman (20/11/23 @ 12:46)

The question to be answered is not why so many officers are resigning but why would anyone wish to join the Job in the first place? I suppose the answer to the second question is pure ignorance. They have no idea what they’re letting themselves in for. It’s only when they’re out on the streets, endeavouring to do the job in the way that all right-minded people would wish them to do it that realization hits them straight between the mince-pies. A complete lack of backing from the senior management, filtering down to inspectors and sergeants, many of whom are totally inexperienced, other officers willing to stab them in the back out of faux outrage for what’s perceived to be an ill-judged remark – and what else? Well, for the CID, it’s impossible work-loads and for everybody it’s derisory wages. Then there’s the scum of the streets, filming, taunting and goading them, with those officers unwilling or unknowing how to fight back and then if they do – or even if they don’t – there’s the omnipresent allegations of racism followed by a simpering, whimpering referral by senior management to the IOPC, who smugly settle down to spend the next few years sharpening up their scalping knives, leaving those poor bloody sods thinking, ‘Why on earth did I join?’ Don’t ask me. Don’t ask the CoP either, because cocooned in the dream factory, as far away from actual police work as it’s possible to be, they certainly don’t know.

Garrison_Lad (20/11/23 @ 14:02)

What is the average service of the Officers resigning? If probationers whilst disappointing it is understandable however if experienced Officers are retiring in signicant numbers that experience is not being replaced and is compounded by end of service retirements.

Anon (20/11/23 @ 14:32)

Firstly. The Metropolitan Police has a commissioner not a Chief Constable at its helm. You would have hoped a writer for Police Oracle would be aware of such basics as ranks in policing. The reasons given by the Met for the attrition levels are incomplete and guess work. I doubt they have carried out detailed exit interviews will all of the officers who have resigned. The more realistic and likely reasons for leaving are a fundamental lack of understanding of what the role of a response officer entails by those joining. Recruitment and HR departments have a lot to answer for here! A lack of maturity, life experience and experience of street life in inner London. A lack of ability in being able to relate to working class communities have conversations with them and realistically problem solve under pressure. A lack of ability in dealing with aggression and violence, either too timid and lacking in presence and the ability to defend themselves or too aggressive when the situation does not require it – overreaction. Combine the above with a lack of experience in every rank from Constable upwards, in particular in the operational ranks likely to actually see the outside of an office. Then it is a recipe for absolute disaster. When I joined my tutor Constable had 12 years in the job, all of them on response. My first Sergeant had 19 years in the job and didn’t get promoted until he had 12 years under his belt as a Constable. There were many response officers on shift who had ten plus years’ service. The lack of experience, not just in dealing with policing matters but in life in general, dealing with colleagues and being able to empathise by drawing upon years of experience is almost totally absent in today’s Constables, supervisory and inspecting ranks. Many of the senior ranks (Chief Inspector upwards) have flown up the ladder so quickly that they have no credible body of experience. When you scratch the surface beyond the fake exteriors and the very thin veneer of confidence, it is clear for all to see what is going wrong. There is the odd exception but few these days. Today’s police have been created by politicians, politicians in uniform (ACPO) now NPCC, THE Federation, CoP, and PCCs. I am not convinced the situation can be reversed. Policing is “holed below the waterlineâ€쳌 and is sinking fast. The damage is done!

Anon (20/11/23 @ 14:42)

Garrison_Lad Many, many probationers. Six in the past week alone in my force. So many deciding its just not for them. You are correct about losing vast swathes of experience. I think about fifteen years is the cut off. More than fifteen years and officers decide to stay, for now anyway. Less then fifteen and there is nothing to keep them anymore, not the pension, certainly not the pay and the conditions of service, management is broken. The free degree has had a massive affect. A degree and 2-3 years of policing on your CV is assisting many straight into better paid jobs working Monday to Friday with social hours. It was always going to happen but those that spoke up at the time were ignored and derided.

Mullers (20/11/23 @ 14:43)

Sqaudders - A perfect summary…….nothing more to add really to this sorry state of affairs. I hope you so called chiefs are reading these comments because we all know what your main priority is………yourself. Rest assured your legacy will be nothing and history will judge you as abject self serving failures.

Captainover (20/11/23 @ 14:46)

It’s a shame that it has got to this but comes as no surprise with derisory wages, lack of experience at all levels, constant self mutilation of public confidence by the “we will not tolerate brigadeâ€쳌, the pressure to do a degree whilst holding down a demanding full time job, the constant vitriol by the media which fuels public hate, the lack of support from SMT who are only interested in their next pay rise and have no interest in public service, the awful shift patterns, the constant cancelled rest days, the damage to the pension scheme, the terrible IT systems, the constant having to play nurse Betty and look after the mentally unwell, the workloads…. Sorry I have ran out of characters!

SuzyQ (20/11/23 @ 15:03)

My son’s friend joined the Met as a direct entry detective. He didn’t last six months. The lack of training and support, long commutes because he couldn’t afford to live in London and the 24/7 scrutiny on every aspect of your life - just not worth the stress. I guess he will go back to management consultancy work - probably end up auditing the Met at some stage…..

Softly Softly (20/11/23 @ 15:33)

The Metropolitan Police has a Commissioner??? LOL

Annoymous. (20/11/23 @ 21:59)

The issues in the Met are exacerbated by the cost of housing. However, the issues are common across the service. I left the job to join the legal profession. My peers regarded me as being good at the job, I was a thief taker and an acting Inspector. The job ‘talks’ a good game around career progression in a meritocratic environment. The reality could not be further from the truth. Many individuals with a few exceptions who are promoted are unable to undertake basic police work. Promotion is entrenched in nepotism, clubs, acceptability replaces suitability. The promotion process is subjective, thief taking, detective work, effective community engagement or crime reduction don’t count for diddly squat. The reduction in the pass mark for NIE and the ease at which Ospre candidates can cheat is a disgrace. Ask Solicitors and Barristers who are filmed, key strokes monitored and whose exams are recorded, College of Policing are a joke. The CoP will worsen as the new leader has never arrested anyone, preserved a crime scene, investigated serious or complex crime, the list continues yet ‘leads’ the services college. Nepotism has destroyed not only operational effectiveness but also morale, young cops who are resigning offer a valuable barometer into the state of Policing UK Plc. Suggestions for worst CC award suggestions please.

Squadman (20/11/23 @ 22:13)

@Annonymous I can't assist with details of the worst chief constable - there's far too many contenders! But I can't contradict anything you say. CoP, please take note - but I'll bet you won't. All serving and retired working cops - I'll bet you will.

BobbyP (21/11/23 @ 14:54)

That's got to be the most amusing quote ive seen for a bit...."Attraction and not attrition is the problem"!! Said by none other than Mr hachet job Rowley himself no doubt! Oh the irony!! Reminds of the saying... "come into my house for dinner" said the spider to the fly!

Guest (23/11/23 @ 16:39)

......and, I wonder, how many of those resignations are as a result of jumping before they're pushed (or convicted)? Harassment, sex offences, mal. comms., assaults, poss. drugs, drug-driving, indecent images etc.....etc.....

Guest (23/11/23 @ 18:09)

And, further to my last.... I've just heard this evening that Met. Royalty and Specialist Protection officers have been warned to work Notting Hill Carnival 2024. Rowley is genuinely worried that he simply won't have enough coppers left by then.

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